Nov 30 2007
Unintentional Intention?
me (12:50:54 AM): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a1jhwHgMoF0
me (12:57:09 AM): !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
me (12:57:13 AM): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mTH5E-da3QU&feature=related
me (12:57:16 AM): LOOOOOOOOOOOKi
friend (12:57:46 AM): salamualaikum
friend (12:57:47 AM): nusaiba
friend (12:57:49 AM): is aMAZING
me (12:57:55 AM): YAAAAAAAAAAR
me (12:57:57 AM): mASHALLAH
me (12:58:08 AM): watch shatry
me (12:58:13 AM): i have him on my ipod
me (12:58:20 AM): but the translation!!!
me (12:58:23 AM): yaya
me (12:58:29 AM): making me happy
me (12:58:33 AM): LOOOLz
friend (12:58:39 AM): one sec
friend (1:00:45 AM): what about the translation
me (1:01:05 AM): I like knowing what i am listening to
me (1:01:13 AM): truly touches the heart
me (1:01:23 AM): what is deen without knowledge?
me (1:02:24 AM): oye wa alikum assalam wa rathmaullah baraktuhu
me (1:02:26 AM): LOOOLLz
friend (1:02:32 AM): haha
me (1:02:34 AM): my apogilsess
friend (1:02:33 AM): word
me (1:02:38 AM): LOOOOLLz
me (1:02:42 AM): you beat me yaar
me (1:02:44 AM): LOOOLz
me (1:03:37 AM): compare
me (1:03:42 AM): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q2GoqGkN3dU
me (1:04:57 AM): he’s inspired
me (1:05:02 AM): but.. i wonder
me (1:05:07 AM): in such a setting
me (1:05:21 AM): if unintentially the intention is flawed?
me (1:05:34 AM): like when ones sings
friend (1:05:40 AM): i know..
me (1:05:44 AM): you can’t help but have ego
friend (1:05:46 AM): i’m not comfortale iwt that
friend (1:05:48 AM): i know
friend (1:05:49 AM): actually
friend (1:05:51 AM): with nusaiba
friend (1:05:53 AM): as beautiful as her voice is
friend (1:05:59 AM): i HATE these qari competitoins
friend (1:06:00 AM): all it does
friend (1:06:02 AM): is build ego
friend (1:06:05 AM): and superficiality
me (1:08:28 AM): yes, indeed it must… but we should assum the best and if so it must be not malicious just unintentional. but then what is human nature? should we deny it? or do these competitions also perfect the voice
friend (1:08:36 AM): of ocurse
friend (1:08:37 AM): but
friend (1:08:40 AM): i’m tlaking about
me (1:08:42 AM): encourage prefection of the human?
friend (1:08:42 AM): the competitoins itself
friend (1:08:45 AM): theyre detrimental
friend (1:08:49 AM): eh…
friend (1:08:49 AM): i mean
me (1:08:53 AM): to eman?
me (1:09:09 AM): so is success in this life, s3?
me (1:09:15 AM): in any form?
me (1:09:23 AM): builds the ego…
me (1:09:36 AM): go on
me (1:09:40 AM): i am listening
me (1:09:57 AM): your the first that concurs with me
friend (1:10:25 AM): this qari ocmpetitioins build more ego and superficiality than one can imagine
friend (1:10:25 AM): and
friend (1:10:30 AM): it can easily be denied
friend (1:10:32 AM): because you can hide it
friend (1:10:35 AM): but then
friend (1:10:38 AM): its between you and God
friend (1:11:11 AM): and honestly
friend (1:11:13 AM): if i was in her position
friend (1:11:18 AM): as modest as i would TRY to be about it
friend (1:11:20 AM): my modesty woul dbe
friend (1:11:21 AM): superficial
friend (1:11:25 AM): because between me and God
friend (1:11:30 AM): i’d know i’m da bomb
me (1:12:35 AM): until realization and maturity take over, and you realize the skilll and talent you display has no reflection on the quality of your HEART
me (1:12:38 AM): of your soul
me (1:13:11 AM): but tis takes time
friend (1:13:13 AM): and
me (1:13:15 AM): to realize it
friend (1:13:17 AM): not everyone can do it
friend (1:13:20 AM): these ompetitions
friend (1:13:24 AM): facilitate shaytan
friend (1:13:26 AM): to enter your heart
me (1:14:16 AM): i agreee, but so does everything in this dunya–but do we shy away from it? nay, i say we have an obligation to it
me (1:14:28 AM): like leadership?
me (1:14:39 AM): shall we liken it to leadership?
me (1:15:04 AM): Islamic leadership is a huge burden. Just imaging the day of Judgment… oye… One who is a leader of an org is not only responsible for their own actions but as well as others in the org while they are the leader. On the Day it is one of the largest burden upon people and will probably be the cause of much demise.
friend (1:15:17 AM): but leadership is different
friend (1:15:19 AM): its a responsiblity
friend (1:15:23 AM): being a contender in a qari competiiton
friend (1:15:24 AM): is not.
friend (1:15:26 AM): we dont need em
friend (1:15:30 AM): there are alternatives
me (1:16:05 AM): does it strenghten the eman, and move the listener?
me (1:16:10 AM): some may say so
friend (1:16:14 AM): a competition
friend (1:16:14 AM): no
friend (1:16:17 AM): the recitatoindoes
me (1:18:30 AM): and competition hons the prefection of recitation, and as for prefection, it’s all relivant, is it not?
me (1:18:53 AM): so a gathering of some sort to show the world is needed?
friend (1:18:58 AM): sa that again
me (1:19:21 AM): me (1:18:30 AM): and competition hons the prefection of recitation, and as for prefection, it’s all relivant, is it not?
me (1:18:53 AM): so a gathering of some sort to show the world is needed?
friend (1:19:29 AM): lol
friend (1:19:30 AM): no i mean
friend (1:19:32 AM): wha tod you mean
me (1:19:52 AM): ummm
me (1:19:54 AM): LOOOOLLz
me (1:19:59 AM): ok
me (1:20:02 AM): well
me (1:20:16 AM): competition builds up the perfection
me (1:20:22 AM): it’s a means of gathering
me (1:20:35 AM): and perfect is relivent
me (1:20:43 AM): for only Allah is truely prefect
me (1:20:58 AM): we as tiny humans have no TRUE concept of it
me (1:21:03 AM): sooo
me (1:21:08 AM): we try
me (1:21:21 AM): and perfection is relvant to your means
me (1:21:28 AM): sooo
me (1:21:37 AM): a gathering is need?
me (1:21:39 AM): s3?
friend (1:23:40 AM): hmm
friend (1:23:53 AM): but the way that competitoins are conducted
friend (1:23:57 AM): is what i’m against
friend (1:24:12 AM): it shouldn’t be hyped up, a public display
me (1:24:20 AM): ummm
me (1:24:24 AM): i must concur
me (1:24:47 AM): but perhaps it’s also our human moviation in side that we should change
me (1:25:13 AM): because people are lured into these competitions by awards
me (1:25:19 AM): human nature I suppose
me (1:25:23 AM): we’ll call it
me (1:25:41 AM): and perhaps it should be towards somthing esle
friend (1:26:17 AM): right
me (1:26:21 AM): becasue after such a gathering … without a tropthy or title?
me (1:26:32 AM): can you put it on display?
me (1:26:38 AM): very few
me (1:26:46 AM): can get hyped upon
me (1:26:52 AM): and put on TV
me (1:30:02 AM): are you busy?
friend (1:30:39 AM): i’m juggling
friend (1:30:39 AM): haha
friend (1:30:40 AM): so sorry
friend (1:30:59 AM): but dude
friend (1:31:03 AM): its not about just the physical
friend (1:31:07 AM): awards that you can touch
friend (1:31:09 AM): its also baout
friend (1:31:11 AM): ego
friend (1:31:19 AM): about how people act around you
friend (1:31:22 AM): when they hear you recite
me (1:36:13 AM): yes, indeed
me (1:36:27 AM): but if Allah give you a talent as well
me (1:36:34 AM): He give you the capcity
me (1:36:58 AM): to seek wisedom and realize your talent isn’t a reflexction upon your soul
me (1:37:04 AM): it’s a fitnah
me (1:37:13 AM): as is being handsome
me (1:37:20 AM): or beautiful
me (1:37:25 AM): heehee
friend (1:37:53 AM): hahaha
friend (1:37:53 AM): yes
in the end this touched me the most:
you two are way too overanalyzing here lol
just because this is what *we* would experience, doenst mean we should project it to everyone and think that whoever goes on stage and gets a good response from the audience suddenly decreases in sincerity.
sincerity = not noticing that creation exists while interacting with them
“whoever seeks after show and fame, is a slave to show and fame. whoever seeks after hiddenness and seclusion, is a slave to hiddenness and seclusion. whoever seeks Allah sincerily, it makes no difference to him whether Allah shows him to the world or hides him from it” - Shaykh Abu’l Abbas al-Mursi
translation: nothing at all changes inside or outside you when 1000 people cheer for you, or dont notice you at all.
so its not about looking to hide what you have, but witnessing its Source (Allah) instead of its recipients (people/audience), and the one who witnesses Allah by default sees nothing else besides Him.