Nov 30 2007
Noor/Joy: And upon sharing it
me (11:21:14 PM): “‘Though it is possible to utter words only with the intention to fulfill the will of God, it is very difficult not to think about the impression which they will produce on men and not to form them accordingly. But deeds you can do quite unknown to men, only for God. And such deeds are the greatest joy that a man can experience.”
-Leo Nilolaevich Tolstoy
me (11:21:25 PM): wallah it’s teh truest thing on earth
me (11:21:38 PM): well not the “truest”
me (11:21:44 PM): but it’s up there
me (11:21:57 PM): you know when you keep it secert
me (11:22:06 PM): and the joy welds in
me (11:22:21 PM): I enjoy if your more ampt to analyze
me (11:22:26 PM): and love it more
me (11:22:37 PM): and gain a deeper a apperication for it
BLAH (11:22:49 PM): uhhh Illana
me (11:22:52 PM): perhaps more wisedom from it too
BLAH (11:22:54 PM): you lost me back there
me (11:23:02 PM): LOLz
me (11:23:07 PM): think not of it
me (11:23:14 PM): I lose many people
BLAH (11:23:43 PM): thats some pretty psychedelic philosophical stuff
me (11:24:05 PM): ?? umm?
me (11:24:21 PM): I don’t mean to guess at things I know least of
me (11:24:27 PM): grey matter you know
me (11:24:42 PM): that benifits no one
me (11:24:45 PM): in the end
me (11:24:55 PM): but you would agree no?
me (11:25:12 PM): or here i lost thee again?
me (11:25:15 PM): have*
BLAH (11:25:14 PM): hahahahaha
BLAH (11:25:16 PM): becharie
me (11:25:53 PM): HAHHA
me (11:25:57 PM): nevermind ![]()
BLAH (11:26:20 PM): just speak in plain english
me (11:27:17 PM): but i am dyslexic ![]()
me (11:27:22 PM): har har har
BLAH (11:27:45 PM): doesnt matter
me (11:36:19 PM): LOlz
me (11:36:24 PM): perhaps
me (11:36:37 PM): well do you want me to explain?
BLAH (11:37:19 PM): definitely
BLAH (11:38:31 PM): well?
me (11:38:44 PM): my mom called ![]()
BLAH (11:38:49 PM): o ok
BLAH (11:38:52 PM): take your time
me (12:06:19 AM):
DDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD
I LOVE MY MOM
me (12:06:23 AM): HHEHEHEH
me (12:06:28 AM): ok ok
me (12:06:31 AM): i’lll chill
me (12:06:33 AM): LOOOOLLLz
me (12:06:36 AM): gosh
me (12:06:37 AM): heehee
me (12:06:39 AM): ok
me (12:06:40 AM): ok
me (12:06:46 AM): where were theeeeeeeee….?
me (12:06:49 AM): ahhhh
me (12:06:54 AM): attempting ![]()
me (12:07:01 AM): och’ay yaaaaaaaaaar
me (12:07:12 AM): vat i vas tryiiiiiinnnnnnnnnng
me (12:07:19 AM): to sayyyyyyyyy
me (12:07:24 AM): vas
me (12:07:26 AM): ya3ni
me (12:07:40 AM): when you do something for the sake of Allah
me (12:07:46 AM): just Allah (swt)
me (12:07:54 AM): you keep it secert
me (12:07:59 AM): and I was wondering
BLAH (12:08:03 AM): right
me (12:08:09 AM): like this beautiful gem
me (12:08:25 AM): this sunlight that you have in your chest
BLAH (12:08:39 AM): i have sunlight in my chest? wow cool
me (12:08:44 AM): that this joy for doing something good
me (12:08:47 AM): heehee
me (12:08:55 AM): when you hoan it
me (12:09:14 AM): whenyou hold it close
me (12:09:26 AM): I wonder if you gain knowledge
me (12:09:32 AM): disapline perahps
me (12:09:38 AM): and thus wisedom from it?
me (12:09:44 AM): like a well
me (12:09:52 AM): that grows bigger?
BLAH (12:09:54 AM): possibly
me (12:10:04 AM): so next time you caught more rain
BLAH (12:10:02 AM): you could be referring to your heart itself
me (12:10:09 AM): ?
BLAH (12:10:18 AM): as nabeyuna Muhammad said … if your heart is good then the rest of you will be good
me (12:10:59 AM): heart?
me (12:11:00 AM): ummm
me (12:11:02 AM): nay
BLAH (12:11:11 AM): yay
BLAH (12:11:12 AM): nay
BLAH (12:11:15 AM): maybe say
me (12:11:20 AM): we do not truely know if our heart is goood
me (12:11:33 AM): everyone has faults
me (12:11:42 AM): I speak of the joy of Alllah
me (12:11:47 AM): of doign good
me (12:11:58 AM): yeah i suppose that’s what i mean
me (12:12:03 AM): feeling noor
me (12:12:05 AM): i suppose
me (12:12:09 AM): in your heart
me (12:12:19 AM): like a rising sun
me (12:12:24 AM): making you happy
BLAH (12:12:23 AM): mmm
BLAH (12:12:27 AM): thats still in your heart though
BLAH (12:12:35 AM): the noor illiminates your heart
BLAH (12:12:46 AM): which in turn affects the rest of your body and your behaviors
me (12:13:10 AM): until you start singing and dances and randomly screaming?
me (12:13:12 AM): LOOLLz
BLAH (12:13:28 AM): haha
BLAH (12:13:31 AM): Sufi-style?
BLAH (12:13:32 AM): maybe
BLAH (12:13:45 AM): well
BLAH (12:13:48 AM): kinda
me (12:14:30 AM): ummm saying the noor illumating in the heart sounds so pretenation
me (12:14:31 AM): s
me (12:14:39 AM): like so assuming
me (12:14:51 AM): i’ rather say joy
BLAH (12:14:59 AM): sure
me (12:15:06 AM): b/c i am feeling it right now
me (12:15:15 AM): and i am not nearly as holyly
me (12:15:18 AM): LOOOLLz
me (12:15:26 AM): but I probabaly have holes
me (12:15:30 AM): Bwhahaha
BLAH (12:15:36 AM): LOL
me (12:15:44 AM): in the brain
BLAH (12:15:43 AM): so tell me why you’re feeling like that
BLAH (12:15:53 AM): well you have seven holes in your head already
me (12:16:11 AM): probably i have more
me (12:16:31 AM): hahaha
me (12:16:38 AM): but that was the point yaar
BLAH (12:16:41 AM): your two eyes, your two nostrils, your two ears and your mouth … seven holes
BLAH (12:16:43 AM): ![]()
me (12:16:48 AM): keeping it secert
BLAH (12:16:53 AM): so anyways, why are you feeling so giddy?
me (12:17:04 AM): holding int the joy until you just…
me (12:17:06 AM): LOOLLZ
me (12:17:10 AM): explode
me (12:17:17 AM): heehee
me (12:17:33 AM): i am nonsense
BLAH (12:17:32 AM): well
BLAH (12:17:33 AM): tell me
me (12:17:50 AM): heehee
me (12:17:51 AM): nay
me (12:17:54 AM): sorry
me (12:17:58 AM): ![]()
BLAH (12:17:56 AM): ‘fess up Illana
me (12:18:06 AM): neverrrrrrrr
me (12:18:10 AM): heehee
me (12:18:21 AM): my point was
me (12:18:28 AM): by not sharing such things
BLAH (12:18:32 AM): uhuh
me (12:18:42 AM): does it make it more precious?
BLAH (12:18:53 AM): sometimes
BLAH (12:19:24 AM): if you share it with someone else and it improves them, if it improves their outlook on life, or makes them happy and smile, then it makes you more happy as a result, because you just helped someone feel better
BLAH (12:19:26 AM): or become better
BLAH (12:19:28 AM): so then
BLAH (12:19:41 AM): it becomes even more valuable to you because you know you canhelp others with it
me (12:19:54 AM): Hahahaha!
me (12:19:57 AM): good try!
me (12:20:02 AM): LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOLz
BLAH (12:20:10 AM): ![]()
BLAH (12:20:17 AM): i always try
me (12:20:41 AM): by keeping it secert does it improve you?
me (12:20:54 AM): teach you wisedom?
BLAH (12:20:55 AM): it might, i dunno
BLAH (12:21:02 AM): depends on what it is
BLAH (12:21:06 AM): i dont even know what it is
me (12:21:10 AM): allow you to hold more joy and noor next time?
BLAH (12:21:32 AM): possibly
me (12:21:34 AM): oye I am goign to throw a chapal a you
BLAH (12:21:42 AM): but my mommy always taught me to share ![]()
me (12:21:45 AM): I am talking about the noor you feel inside
me (12:21:59 AM): keeping it secert
BLAH (12:21:59 AM): well the noor i have inside .. No, i dont keep it inside
BLAH (12:22:05 AM): i dont keep it a secret, no
me (12:22:18 AM): ugh
me (12:22:24 AM): i don’t think your listening
me (12:22:36 AM): ya3ni let me spell it out for you
me (12:22:43 AM): even though i can’t spell
me (12:23:03 AM): you do something for Allah>> thus you feel noor>>
BLAH (12:23:04 AM): okay
BLAH (12:23:07 AM): right
me (12:23:13 AM): by doing it for Allah
me (12:23:20 AM): you keep it secert
BLAH (12:23:29 AM): well yeah thats true
BLAH (12:23:34 AM): but thats the actual ACT itself
me (12:23:36 AM): but by sharing it does it cheapen it?
me (12:23:39 AM): and then
me (12:23:44 AM): the noor itself
BLAH (12:23:48 AM): no, that you dont share really
BLAH (12:23:49 AM): but
me (12:23:51 AM): by sharing it
BLAH (12:23:53 AM): the noor you got from it
me (12:23:56 AM): eik min
me (12:23:58 AM): eik min
BLAH (12:24:02 AM): that you can share, without revealing the action itself
me (12:24:08 AM): yeahhh
me (12:24:11 AM): ![]()
me (12:24:13 AM): ok
BLAH (12:24:18 AM): k
me (12:24:27 AM): does sharing the noor cheapen the act itself?
me (12:24:41 AM): ?
BLAH (12:24:42 AM): depends how you’re sharing it
me (12:24:50 AM): like how?
BLAH (12:24:49 AM): if you are talking about the act itself
BLAH (12:24:57 AM): then yeah, it becomes cheapened
BLAH (12:25:01 AM): you did it for the sake of Allaah
BLAH (12:25:07 AM): so leave it between you and Him
me (12:26:01 AM): but smiling like a crazy head… things you can’t control becasue you can bearly contain yourself
me (12:26:12 AM): does that cheapen it as well?
BLAH (12:26:20 AM): nope
BLAH (12:26:24 AM): not at all ![]()
me (12:26:37 AM): LOOLLz
me (12:26:39 AM): ok
me (12:26:47 AM): did having this convo
me (12:26:55 AM): becasue you have an inkling
me (12:27:05 AM): b/c i had to SPELL it out for you
BLAH (12:27:10 AM): lol
me (12:27:15 AM): cheapen it?
BLAH (12:27:20 AM): all I know so far, is that you’re really happy
BLAH (12:27:25 AM): and no it didnt cheapen it
me (12:27:45 AM): INSHALLAH THEN ![]()
me (12:27:55 AM): LOOOLLz
me (12:27:59 AM): I am soo lame
me (12:28:01 AM): heehee
BLAH (12:28:01 AM): naw
BLAH (12:28:04 AM): you’re alright
me (12:28:08 AM): Alhumduillah
me (12:28:42 AM): *happy sigh*
>>>me (12:09:14 AM): whenyou hold it close
me (12:09:26 AM): I wonder if you gain knowledge
me (12:09:32 AM): disapline perahps
me (12:09:38 AM): and thus wisedom from it?
me (12:09:44 AM): like a well
me (12:09:52 AM): that grows bigger?
me (12:10:04 AM): so next time you caught more rain
(dont know why my comment got cut off…)
was saying before, that section i quoted from your words is the absolute 1000% truth, no doubt to it.
rivers flood (i.e. cant handle it) when it rains from the heavens, but oceans dont flood. so when u hide that noor, ur capacity grows so next time ur able to contain more, until you reach a point where it doesnt affect u on the outside and u look completely normal outwardly, while inwardly there’s a whole storm of noor flying about.
the *rule* is: you can share it with those who have 1) greater capacity than you, and 2) who are authorized and permitted to train/guide people to Allah. in that case, it wont dissipate but grow thru the blessing that comes thru them…
hadha huwa-l HAQQ