Born Confused

Talking about an intention speech… 

 

me (4:09:24 AM): nay, yaar like i weep after i heard that speech

me (4:09:33 AM): it hit me in teh gut so bad

peep (4:09:39 AM): yeah me too

me (4:09:45 AM): thank Allah it was dark

me (4:09:49 AM): wallah?

me (4:10:03 AM): my eyes were soooo swallon

me (4:10:08 AM): swollen*

peep (4:10:38 AM): yeah

peep (4:10:42 AM): I tear fairly easy

me (4:11:16 AM): teary happens to me easily

me (4:11:22 AM): weeping like that does not

me (4:11:38 AM): like perhaps once a year

peep (4:11:55 AM): ah mashaAllah

peep (4:12:03 AM): what was it in particular that got to you?

me (4:13:57 AM): umm… perhaps the honesty in which he viewed himself like when he said he doubted himself when he went on stage and gave speeches when he was younger

me (4:14:21 AM): it hit a really insecure spot within me

peep (4:14:32 AM): yeah that’s the thing; he has a very humanistic approach

peep (4:14:44 AM): doesn’t deny the harsh realities and shortcomings that we all have

peep (4:14:51 AM): that’s what makes his words so accessible for us

peep (4:14:54 AM): he’s doesn’t talk down to us

peep (4:15:04 AM): he speaks to the insecurities and very real challenges we all face

me (4:15:16 AM): yes.

me (4:15:29 AM): perhaps knowing i wasn’t teh only one

me (4:15:39 AM): released a lot of tention

peep (4:15:44 AM): yess definitely

me (4:15:47 AM): tension*

peep (4:15:50 AM): honestly

peep (4:15:59 AM): this is the message and mission I’m longing to spread

peep (4:16:03 AM): in general

peep (4:16:26 AM): that we’re all humans, we’re all sinners

peep (4:16:39 AM): but that we should never be scared or afraid to be ourselves

peep (4:16:41 AM): yeah

me (4:16:47 AM): no no go on

peep (4:17:08 AM): I think, despite how obvious this sounds

peep (4:17:23 AM): it’s a philosophy that runs in stark contrast to most “islamic” organizations and institutions

peep (4:17:25 AM): in modern times

peep (4:17:51 AM): that’s why we see more and more teenagers by the truckload become disillusioned and dissatisfied with their muslim communities

peep (4:18:04 AM): they are repelled because of who they are

me (4:18:16 AM): stark in most “islamic” theology and attitude in modern times as well

me (4:18:18 AM): yes

me (4:18:21 AM): i concur

me (4:18:29 AM): go on

peep (4:18:43 AM): wallah that’s it

peep (4:18:45 AM): but basically

peep (4:18:59 AM): that is the mentality I’m setting out to challenge

peep (4:19:12 AM): even if it becomes my life’s work

me (4:19:33 AM): it’s a mentality I have had to fight so hard against

peep (4:19:49 AM): yes

peep (4:19:55 AM): and you are by far not the only one

peep (4:19:59 AM): and you know

peep (4:20:06 AM): this isn’t something necessarily confined to Islam

peep (4:20:18 AM): but a universal mentality that has become so prevalent

peep (4:20:25 AM): the world ove

peep (4:20:25 AM): r

peep (4:20:36 AM): it’s what’s decaying the world

me (4:21:13 AM): ah yes, self-righteousness revolts me— and in fighting sometimes we’re not too sure of ourselves esp when we see we’re the only one

me (4:21:28 AM): so he saying “it’s ok”

me (4:21:46 AM): released …

me (4:22:16 AM): i don’t know, but it’s good to release but it’s not a permanent fix

peep (4:23:06 AM): yes

peep (4:23:16 AM): releasing is just a means of coping

me (4:23:29 AM): I seem to do a lot of that

me (4:23:36 AM): in general

peep (4:23:38 AM): the chemotherapy of the soul

me (4:24:00 AM): does it kill off a part of it too?

peep (4:24:08 AM): perhaps

me (4:24:11 AM): perhaps the weak part?

peep (4:24:17 AM): but it is a temporary solution

me (4:24:21 AM): but a little good too

peep (4:24:22 AM): that does not cure

me (4:24:32 AM): yeah, it’s not a cure at all

me (4:24:45 AM): and i wonder if in resides inside of me

me (4:25:02 AM): or is that resignation in it self?

peep (4:25:56 AM): no

peep (4:26:00 AM): I think it lies in everyone

peep (4:26:20 AM): I mean

peep (4:26:27 AM): the world has not always been this way

peep (4:26:37 AM): jerks haven’t always been running the world

 

peep (4:29:28 AM): do you think it’s bad

peep (4:29:42 AM): that I’m uncomfortable with people that quote the Prophet more than they use their own words?

me (4:30:00 AM): nope

peep (4:30:09 AM): it just unsettles me

peep (4:30:14 AM): and it unsettles me that it unsettles me

peep (4:30:33 AM): but it’s as though they do not disseminate the information for themselves

peep (4:30:46 AM): but who am I to judge

me (4:30:56 AM): but simply spew it

me (4:31:12 AM): like self-righteousness

me (4:31:17 AM): i understand

peep (4:31:19 AM): no

peep (4:31:24 AM): I wouldn’t say self righteousness

peep (4:31:27 AM): just a laziness

peep (4:31:35 AM): unwilling to form their own opinions and insights

me (4:31:45 AM): but self-righteousness is born from laziness

peep (4:31:47 AM): instead of building off the beauty of the messenger

peep (4:31:59 AM): using his light to ignite their own flame

peep (4:32:07 AM): they simply become parasites

me (4:32:57 AM): indeed, what i meant is that such laziness is what’s given birth to self-righteousness

peep (4:33:04 AM): sure

peep (4:33:06 AM): yes

peep (4:33:13 AM): I think that’s one of the roots of self righteousness

peep (4:33:22 AM): but not all people like that are necessarily self righteous

peep (4:33:28 AM): they are simply… caged

peep (4:33:37 AM): the self righteous are those that are caged

peep (4:33:46 AM): but squack loudly

peep (4:33:49 AM): *squawk

me (4:34:29 AM): caged… yes, so you see that, and distress over it

me (4:34:34 AM): it’s a foresight

me (4:34:41 AM): do not degrade it

peep (4:34:46 AM): I don’t

peep (4:34:52 AM): I feel an urgent fervor

peep (4:34:55 AM): to reach out to them

peep (4:35:02 AM): to bring them into the infinite fields

peep (4:35:13 AM): to smell the roses of love, laughter, contentment

peep (4:35:24 AM): and to drink from the river of enlightenment and self-awareness

me (4:35:46 AM): some people hold on to their boxes

me (4:35:52 AM): the light blinds them

me (4:36:02 AM): and they reside therein

peep (4:36:11 AM): it is my weakness that I have trouble leaving them be

me (4:36:18 AM): limiting there own potential

me (4:36:25 AM): weakness

me (4:36:27 AM): nay

me (4:36:30 AM): strength

me (4:36:41 AM): most don’t care enough

me (4:36:47 AM): don’t feel enough

me (4:37:02 AM): do not hinder yourself because they do

me (4:37:14 AM): and that is their “norm”

me (4:37:28 AM): the norm of boxy people

me (4:37:42 AM): who don’t see the extent of the sky

peep (4:37:49 AM): but I want them to

me (4:37:49 AM): and horizon

peep (4:38:06 AM): I’m not so selfish that I want to sit on a secluded beach and watch the sun rise all by myself

peep (4:38:16 AM): I want the world to sit on one big towel

peep (4:38:19 AM): and get a sun tan

peep (4:38:21 AM): together

me (4:38:31 AM): and wear sun screen

peep (4:38:37 AM): (and we’ll remember to wear sunscreen)

peep (4:38:39 AM): haha

me (4:38:44 AM): haha

me (4:39:10 AM): I do not say be selfish, in fact fight

me (4:39:22 AM): but know you won’t always win

peep (4:39:26 AM): yes

me (4:39:30 AM): have heart

peep (4:39:33 AM): I guess I just need reassurance

peep (4:39:37 AM): that fighting is the right thing

me (4:39:38 AM): but use the brain as well

me (4:39:46 AM): indeed

peep (4:39:49 AM): and that I shouldn’t just resign myself to let them be

me (4:39:54 AM): it’s “coping”

peep (4:40:00 AM): aiywa

peep (4:40:01 AM): so

peep (4:40:03 AM): we become the cure

me (4:40:10 AM): inshAllah

peep (4:40:15 AM): we are the rope of Allah

me (4:40:18 AM): and our sincerity

me (4:40:20 AM): is the needle

me (4:40:47 AM): oye lets not get self-rightious now

peep (4:40:51 AM): hahaha

 

a compliant: oh and i understand ur trying to spread the word of human suffering. im just advocating that u instead try to expose the root cause of the suffering. showing a starving child doesnt have any effect anymore. it just shows africans as subhuman, undignified people. and being african, i take a lot of offense to that.

im just saying, showing starving children wont have any effect anymore. and africa is much more than a place of suffering. but whatever, u obviously are content with “helping” africa. so u can carry on with this. good luck.

My turn on it:

*Trying* to point fault at a picture is asinine.
Helping people in no way degrades the people being helped. People less fortunate have a right over those who can help. People who hold a belief in contradiction to this do so because they have a sense of arrogance and false pride and are ashamed of poverty. Wealth is not a measure of the greatness of another, rather a measure of responsibility owned to others less fortunate, and this is what this group is about. Africa needs help (I been to the good part too, Egypt and they need help too) and denying the fact with false pride only perpetuates the neglect that has reigned supreme over this continent and brought it to such a condition in the first place.

I danced today

and my hair flew every which way

happiness grew

as beauty ensued

my eyes green and bright–

thank you mirror

I am an awesome wild sight!

Flying higher and higher!

Nowhere near tis’ tier

Joy sprang a rose

And no door seem to close

I have been feeling very poetic:

Laughter so loud
Tears so sweet
We’ll look back on the days we were so proud
On our feet
Near to anguish we were
Ecstasy simply pure
Oh those mighty days when we caused such a stir!
Everything was importanr and taken with zeal
Still strong we were not needing that meal
Naive we were–taking to love so fast!
Gone are the days
So now we just laugh!

HEEHEE… ALLAH-u-AKHBAR!

 

me (2:43:00 AM):i figured you felt emo

me (2:43:08 AM):thinking about death

person (2:44:00 AM):haha

person (2:44:00 AM):no

person (2:44:06 AM):I was just copying my friend’s thing

person (2:44:17 AM):it’s not emo to think about death

me (2:45:16 AM):it’s rather healthy, I agree–i just usually keep it to myself perhaps

me (2:45:32 AM):in fact i have been thinking about it a lot

person (2:47:41 AM):it really is

person (2:47:49 AM):you can’t appreciate life fully

person (2:47:55 AM):without contemplating death

person (2:48:03 AM):it doesn’t mean you should fear death

me (2:48:38 AM):even a little fear isn’t unhealthy

me (2:48:56 AM):fear is what makes you truly brave

me (2:49:27 AM):fear is what makes you truly able to appreciate

person (2:49:50 AM):I don’t regard that as fear

me (2:49:51 AM):http://youtube.com/watch?v=K9jOlGB5R5U

person (2:49:56 AM):I call that awareness

person (2:50:09 AM):consciousness

person (2:50:11 AM):but not fear

me (2:50:23 AM):are we not afraid of the harsh truth?

me (2:50:33 AM):the awareness?

person (2:50:38 AM):no

me (2:50:42 AM):it doesn’t paralyze us

me (2:51:00 AM):just like you said.. aware

person (2:51:12 AM):but that doesn’t make it fear

me (2:51:53 AM):wouldn’t you say one is an innate reaction and then the other is the resultant?

me (2:52:22 AM):result being aware, consciousness, fight or flight effect

me (2:52:27 AM):etc?

person (2:53:15 AM):but fear isn’t healthy

person (2:53:25 AM):awareness is

person (2:53:30 AM):we fear what we don’t know

me (2:53:36 AM):anything in excess is unhealthy

person (2:53:47 AM):fear in any quantity is unhealthy

me (2:54:28 AM):but we don’t know all, so fear is bond to happen–awareness, etc, is the healthy part to fear

me (2:54:30 AM):aye?

person (2:55:06 AM):no

person (2:55:14 AM):awareness is the opposite of fear

person (2:55:20 AM):it is the antidote to fear

me (2:56:03 AM):then what do you call it when the prey picks up it’s ears to the predictor?

person (2:56:39 AM):huh

me (2:59:17 AM):in nature, the gazelle picks up it’s ears to the as it approaches–do you deny that fear runs thought the prey–adrenaline rushes in heightening awareness?

me (2:59:27 AM):to the lion*

person (3:00:13 AM):the human being is elevated in this regard

person (3:00:21 AM):that is what sets us apart as the highest of creation

person (3:00:23 AM):our awareness

person (3:00:33 AM):that’s the whole point

person (3:00:38 AM):the difference between us and animals

person (3:00:44 AM):is that we have the ability to dispel our fears

person (3:00:53 AM):that is what we’ve been blessed with

me (3:01:34 AM):Freedom of will is what separates us

person (3:01:50 AM):and our awareness

me (3:02:24 AM):you mean the obtainment of knowledge

me (3:02:33 AM):“iqra…”

person (3:02:42 AM):more basic than that

person (3:02:50 AM):we are able to discern the world around us

person (3:03:06 AM):in such a way that allows us to make our own interpretations

person (3:03:20 AM):so the only reason we’d ever fear something

person (3:03:28 AM):is if we didn’t know about it

person (3:03:31 AM):if it was unknown

person (3:03:50 AM):but we have the ability to find out the unknown

me (3:05:13 AM):as do animals discern… that’s why we do not show the knife to them before we slaughter them. but do we not also have the knowledge of our own limited understanding of the world? and even in death… we know the little we do from the scriptures

me (3:06:13 AM):in an absolute sense i totally get what your saying… but it doesn’t seem realistic

person (3:06:39 AM):why not?

person (3:06:50 AM):aren’t we told not to fear anything but God?

person (3:07:07 AM):I believe even that statement has been corrupted in translation

person (3:07:28 AM):because taqwa does not mean fear so much as it means higher consciousness

person (3:07:35 AM):of course we feel fear person (3:07:42 AM):it’s natural

person (3:07:47 AM):but to say it’s healthy

person (3:07:50 AM):I can’t agree

me (3:09:28 AM):umm… you make me think… but cannot fear contribute to taqwa?

me (3:09:45 AM):a higher consciousness?

person (3:09:54 AM):I don’t think we should fear God

person (3:09:58 AM):I’ve told you this

me (3:10:01 AM):yes yes–I KNOW THIS

person (3:10:16 AM):perhaps fear is a step in the direction of consciousness

person (3:10:23 AM):but I don’t think it’s one we should stop at

person (3:10:33 AM):like I said

person (3:10:35 AM):it’s natural

me (3:10:38 AM):i never suggested we stop at it

me (3:10:45 AM):it’s a step of maturity though

me (3:10:51 AM):we must past

me (3:10:55 AM):to love Allah

person (3:11:30 AM):I mean

person (3:11:36 AM):I think it’s the default feeling

me (3:11:38 AM):even such ugly, shunned things as fear have a good side

person (3:11:42 AM):it doesn’t require much effort to fear things

me (3:11:49 AM):yes, it’s basic

person (3:11:52 AM):what good side could there be to fear?

me (3:12:26 AM):as long as it’s little, a heighten awareness–to accumulate understanding

me (3:12:44 AM):and with understanding comes the power to dispel fear

me (3:12:48 AM):and love

me (3:13:11 AM):we, as animalistic creatures must start somewhere

me (3:13:26 AM):we’re not innately holy or strong

person (3:13:51 AM):but then… it’s simply redundant to say fear is necessary

person (3:13:56 AM):because we fear by default

me (3:14:58 AM):we’re simply unaware by default, it’s when we wake up that we fear

person (3:16:04 AM):I dunno about that

person (3:16:08 AM):you may be right

person (3:16:16 AM):but I think we always fear

person (3:16:26 AM):it’s just subconsciously

me (3:17:33 AM):perhaps you are more aware then others…. my mind… some parts are still like a baby… until a lion approaches and my ears pick up

person (3:17:56 AM):perhaps

person (3:18:30 AM):but, for example, I think at the root of all racists is a fear

me (3:18:59 AM):like when you learn about crimes… the way people kill each other… how they caught them, torture…. when you walk down an alley way your aware of every sound behind you

me (3:19:14 AM):oh racists are overwhelmed with fear

me (3:20:14 AM):a twinge of fear–to keep you aware of what’s behind you in that alley-way–because you just learned new possibilities …

me (3:20:49 AM):of how someone can hurt you is what i am talking about—and even that can develop into paranoia

me (3:21:36 AM):our task in our free will is to dispel the fear–or at least most of it

me (3:21:56 AM):if we’re not able to do all of it

me (3:22:06 AM):to keep ourselves safe

me (3:23:46 AM):your right, I’m right… we just start from different gauges and starts

me (3:24:10 AM):but i think we concur about heighten awareness etc

person (3:26:07 AM):yeah

person (3:26:10 AM):I guess so person (3:26:12 AM):lol

me (3:27:47 AM):och’ay yaar, it’s been a very very very long and arduous day alhumduillah

me (3:27:54 AM):very productive

me (3:28:05 AM):and i am very tired ……..